ISC, ISCe, QSC8.3, ISL, ISLe3, ISLe4 and QSL9 Engines – t00-004   Troubleshooting Overview

Engine Noise Diagnostic Procedures – General Information

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NOTE: When diagnosing engine noise problems, make sure that noises caused by accessories, such as the air compressor and power take-off, are not mistaken for engine noises. Remove the accessory drive belts to eliminate noise caused by these units. Noise will also travel to other metal parts not related to the problem. The use of a stethoscope can help locate an engine noise.

Engine noises heard at the crankshaft speed, engine rpm, are noises related to the crankshaft, rods, pistons, and piston pins. Noises heard at the camshaft speed, one-half of the engine rpm, are related to the valve train. A handheld digital tachometer can help determine if the noise is related to components operating at the crankshaft or camshaft speed.

Engine noise can sometimes be isolated by performing a cylinder cutout test. Refer to Procedure 014-008 in Section 14. If the volume of the noise decreases or the noise disappears, it is related to that particular engine cylinder.

There is not a definite rule or test that will positively determine the source of a noise complaint.

Engine-driven components and accessories, such as gear-driven fan clutches, hydraulic pumps, belt-driven alternators, air-conditioning compressors, and turbochargers, can contribute to engine noise. Use the following information as a guide to diagnosing engine noise.

Main Bearing Noise

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(See Engine Noise Excessive – Main Bearing symptom tree)

The noise caused by a loose main bearing is a loud, dull knock heard when the engine is pulling a load. If all main bearings are loose, a loud clatter will be heard. The knock is heard regularly every other revolution. The noise is the loudest when the engine is lugging or under heavy load. The knock is duller than a connecting rod noise. Low oil pressure can also accompany this condition.

If the bearing is not loose enough to produce a knock by itself, the bearing can knock if the oil is too thin or if there is no oil on the bearing.

An irregular noise can indicate worn crankshaft thrust bearings.

An intermittent, sharp knock indicates excessive crankshaft end clearance. Repeated clutch disengagements can cause a change in the noise.

Connecting Rod Bearing Noise

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(See Engine Noise Excessive – Connecting Rod symptom tree)

Connecting rods with excessive clearance will knock at all engine speeds under both idle and load conditions. When the bearings begin to become loose, the noise can be confused with piston slap or loose piston pins. The noise increases in volume with engine speed. Low oil pressure can also accompany this condition.

Piston Noise

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(See Engine Noise Excessive – Piston symptom tree)

It is difficult to tell the difference between piston pin, connecting rod, and piston noise. A loose piston pin causes a loud double knock that is usually heard when the engine is idling. When the injector to this cylinder is cut out, a noticeable change will be heard in the sound of the knocking noise. However, on some engines the knock becomes more noticeable when the vehicle is operated on the road at a steady speed.

Driveability – General Information

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Driveability is a term that in general describes vehicle performance on the road. Driveability problems for an engine can be caused by several different factors. Some of the factors are engine-related and some are not.

Before troubleshooting, it is important to determine the exact complaint and whether the engine has a real driveability issue or if it simply does not meet driver expectations. The Driveability/Low-Power Customer Complaint Form is a valuable list of questions that must be used to assist the service technician in determining what type of driveability issue the vehicle is experiencing. Complete the checklist before troubleshooting the issue. The form can be found at the end of this section. If an engine is performing to factory specifications but does not meet the customer’s expectations, explain to the customer that nothing is wrong with the vehicle and why.

The troubleshooting symptom charts have been set up to divide driveability problems into two different symptoms: Engine Power Output Low and Engine Acceleration or Response Poor.

Low power is a term that is used in the field to describe many different performance issues. However, in this manual low power is defined as the inability of the engine to produce the power necessary to move the vehicle at a speed that can be reasonably expected under the given conditions of load, grade, wind, and so on. Low power is usually caused by the lack of fuel flow that can be caused by any of the following factors:

  • Lack of full travel of the accelerator pedal
  • Failed boost sensor
  • Excessive fuel inlet, intake, exhaust, or drainline restriction
  • Loose fuel pump suction lines.

Low power is the inability of the vehicle to accelerate satisfactorily from a stop or the bottom of a grade. See the symptom tree Engine Power Output Low for the proper procedures to locate and correct a low-power issue. The chart starts off with basic items that can cause lower power.

Poor acceleration or response is described in this manual as the inability of the vehicle to accelerate satisfactorily from a stop or from the bottom of a grade. It can also be the lag in acceleration during an attempt to pass or overtake another vehicle at conditions less than rated speed and load. Poor acceleration or response is difficult to troubleshoot since it can be caused by factors such as:

  • Engine or pump related factors
  • Driver technique
  • Improper gear shifting
  • Improper engine application
  • Worn clutch or clutch linkage.

Engine related poor acceleration or response can be caused by several different factors such as:

  • Failed boost sensor
  • Excessive drainline restriction
  • Accelerator deadband.

See the symptom tree Engine Acceleration or Response Poor for the proper procedures to locate and correct a poor acceleration or response complaint. For additional information, see Troubleshooting Driveability Complaints, Bulletin 3387245.

Driveability/Low Power – Customer Complaint Form

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Customer Name/Company/Driver____________________________________Date______________

  • Describe Problem/Complaint_____________________________________________________
  • Symptoms of the Problem/Complaint
  • When cranking:
  • ____Cranks too slowly
  • ____Cranks OK but does not start easily
  • ____Cranks OK but does not start
  • ____Slow start; _____ seconds
  • ____Starts then dies
  • ____Idle RPM is rough when engine is cold
  • ____Idle RPM is rough when engine is hot
  • When driving
  • ____Misses or hesitates during acceleration
  • ____Misses or hesitates during deceleration
  • ____Stalls (dies) during acceleration
  • ____Stalls (dies) during deceleration
  • ____Smokes: ___ black ___ white
  • ____Low power
  • ____Unusal engine ____________________________________________________________________________
  • When do you notice the Problem/Complaint occurring?
  • Engine conditions:
  • When the coolant temperature for the engine is:
  • ___ cold ___ normal ___ hot ___ all temperatures
  • When the engine is ____ RPM on the tachometer
  • Weather conditions:
  • ___ cold (below 10°C [50°F]) ___ hot (above 27°C [80°F]) ___ humid or rainy ___ other ____________________
  • When driving:
  • ____Accelerating
  • ____Decelerating
  • ____Climbing a grade / hill
  • ____Down hill
  • ____Braking
  • ____Unloaded
  • ____Loaded
  • How did the problem occur? Suddenly ________ Gradually ________
  • At what hour/mileage did the problem begin? Hours ________ Miles ________ Since New ________
  • After engine repair? Yes ________ No ________
  • After equipment repair? Yes ________ No ________
  • After change in equipment use? Yes ________ No ________
  • After change in selected programmable parameters? Yes ________ No ________
  • If so, what was repaired and when?______________________________________________________________
  • Does the vehicle also experience poor fuel economy? Yes ________ No ________

Answer questions 7 through 10 using selections (A through F) listed below. Circle the letter or letters that best describe the complaint.

A – Compared to fleet, B – compared to competition, C – compared to previous engine

D – Personal expectation, E – will not pull on hill, F – will not pull on flat terrain

  • A B C D E F
  • Can the vehicle obtain the expected road speed? Yes ________ No ________
  • What is desired speed? rpm/mph ________
  • What is achieved speed? rpm/mph ________
  • Gross vehicle weight ________________
  • A B C D E F
  • Has the vehicle’s load changed? Yes ________ No ________
  • Is the vehicle able to pull the load? Yes ________ No ________

When?

  • ________ On hilly terrain
  • ________ With a loaded trailer
  • ________ On flat terrain
  • ________ Other ___________________________________________________________________________________

If no was the answer to the previous questions, fill out the Driveability/Low Power/Excessive Fuel Consumption Checklist and go to the Low Power performance tree.

A B C D E F

  • Is the vehicle slow to accelerate or respond? Yes ________ No ________

When?

  • From a stop? Yes ________ No ________
  • After a shift? Yes ________ No ________ rpm ________
  • Before a shift? Yes ________ No ________ rpm ________
  • No shift? Yes ________ No ________ rpm ________
  • A B C D E F
  • Does the vehicle hesitate after periods of long deceleration or coasting? Yes ________ No ________ rpm ________

If yes was the answer to the previous two questions, fill out the Driveability/Low Power/ Excessive Fuel Consumption Checklist and go to the Poor Acceleration/Response performance tree.

Additional Comments:

  • __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

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Driveability/Low Power/Excessive Fuel Consumption – Checklist

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Vehicle/Equipment Specifications

Year, Type, and Model: ____________________________________________________________________________________

Transmission (RT 14609, and so forth): ________________________,

Duty Cycle:________________________________________,

Rear Axle Ratio, Number of Axles: _____, Application: Industrial ____, Marine ____, Genset ____, Automotive ____

Typical Gross Vehicle Weight: _________________________, Engine Rating: _________________________

Trailer Type and Size: _______________________________________, Height: __________, Weight: __________

Tire Size (11R x 24.5, low profile, and so forth) ________________________________________________________

Tire Type: Radial __________, Standard Tread __________, Extra Tread __________

Fan Type: Direct Drive __________, Viscous __________, Clutch __________

Power Steering: Yes ________ No ________Air Conditioner: Yes ________ No ________Air Shield: Yes ________ No ________Freon Compressor: Yes ________ No ________

General Information
DO Number:
SC Number:
Fuel Pump Code:
Fuel Pump Serial Number:
Mileage:
Engine Serial Number:
Date in Service:
Engine Model and Rating:
Cruise Speed and rpm:
Rated Speed and rpm:
Road Speed Governor:
Yes
No
Type:
Engine Brake:
Yes
No
Type/Brand:
Chassis and Other Related Items
Tank Vents:
OK
Not OK
Obvious Fuel Leaks:
Yes
No
Brake Drag:
OK
Not OK
Axle Alignment:
OK
Not OK
Altitude:
Ambient Temperature:
Fuel Heater:
Conditions (Wind, Rain, Snow):
Fuel Type:
Number 1D
Number 2D
Other
Typical Terrain:
Flat
Hilly
% Asphalt
% Concrete

Additional Comments:

______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

NOTE: Use this information for VE/VMS® run.

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Fuel Consumption – General Information

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The cause of excessive fuel consumption is hard to diagnose and correct because of the potential number of factors involved. Actual fuel consumption problems can be caused by any of the following factors:

  • Engine factors
  • Vehicle factors and specifications
  • Environmental factors
  • Driver technique and operating practices
  • Fuel system factors
  • Low-power/driveability problems.

Before troubleshooting, it is important to determine the exact complaint. Is the complaint based on whether the problem is real or perceived, or does not meet driver expectations? The Fuel Consumption – Customer Complaint Form (on the next page) is a valuable list of questions that can be used to assist the service technician in determining the cause of the problem. Complete the form before troubleshooting the complaint. The following are some of the factors that must be considered when troubleshooting fuel consumption complaints.

  1. Result of a Low-Power/Driveability Problem: An operator will change driving style to compensate for a low power/driveability problem. Some things the driver is likely to do are (a) shift to a higher engine rpm or (b) run on the droop curve in a lower gear instead of upshifting to drive at partial-throttle conditions. These changes in driving style will increase the amount of fuel used.
  2. Driver Technique and Operating Practices: As a general rule, a 1-mph increase in road speed equals a 0.1 mpg increase in fuel consumption. For example, increasing road speed from 50 to 60 mph will result in a loss of fuel mileage of 1 mpg.
  3. Environmental and Seasonal Weather Changes: As a general rule, there can be as much as a 1- to 1.5-mpg difference in fuel consumption depending on the season and the weather conditions.
  4. Excessive Idling Time: Idling the engine can use from 0.5 to 1.5 gallons per hour depending on the engine idle speed.
  5. Truck Route and Terrain: East/west routes experience almost continuous crosswinds and head winds. Less fuel can be used on north/south routes where parts of the trip are not only warmer, but also have less wind resistance.
  6. Vehicle Aerodynamics: The largest single power requirement for a truck is the power needed to overcome air resistance. As a general rule, each 10-percent reduction in air resistance results in a 5-percent increase in mpg.
  7. Rolling Resistance: Rolling resistance is the second largest consumer of power on a truck. The type of tire and tread design has a sizable effect on fuel economy and performance. Changing from a bias ply to low-profile radial tire can reduce rolling resistance by about 36 percent.
  8. Additional Devices Using the Same Fuel Source: Additional devices may use the same fuel tank as the vehicle. For example, excessive use of generators or reefers can falsely indicate high fuel consumption.

Additional vehicle factors, vehicle specifications, and axle alignment can also affect fuel consumption. For additional information on troubleshooting fuel consumption complaints, see Troubleshooting Excessive Fuel Consumption, Bulletin 3387245.

Fuel Consumption – Customer Complaint Form

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Customer Name/Company __________________________________________________________ Date ________________

Answer the following questions. Some questions require making an X next to the appropriate answer.

  1. What fuel mileage is expected? ________ Expected mpg
  2. What are the expectations based on? Original mileage ________, Other units in fleet ________, Competitive engines ________Previous engine owned ________, Expectations only ________, VE/VMS® report ________
  3. When did the problem occur? Since New ________, Suddenly ________, Gradually ________
  4. Did the problem start after a repair? Yes ________ No ________If so, what was repaired and when? ____________________________________________________________
  5. Is the vehicle also experiencing a driveability issue (low power or poor acceleration/response)? Yes ________ No ________

IF ANSWERED YES, FILL OUT THE DRIVEABILITY/LOW-POWER/EXCESSIVE FUEL CONSUMPTION CHECKLIST, AND GO TO THE ENGINE POWER OUTPUT LOW TROUBLESHOOTING SYMPTOM CHART.

  1. Is the problem seasonal? Yes ________ No ________
  2. Weather conditions during fuel consumption check? Rain _____, Snow _____, Wind _____, Hot temperatures _____, Cold temperatures _____
  3. How is the fuel mileage measured? Tank _____, Trip _____, Month _____, Year _____Hubometer _____, Odometer _____
  4. Are accurate records kept of fuel added on the road? Yes ________ No ________
  5. Do routes vary between compared vehicles? Yes ________ No ________
  6. Have routes changed for the engine being checked? Yes ________ No ________
  7. What are the loads hauled, compared to comparison unit? Gross Vehicle Weight _______________Heavier ________, Lighter ________
  8. What is the altitude during operation? Below 3048 meters [10,000 feet] ________, Above 3048 meters [10,000 feet] ________
  9. How much of the time is the truck spent idling? Hours/day __________
  10. Is the driver technique or operating practices affecting fuel economy?
  • High road speed: mph __________
  • Operate at rated speed or above: rpm __________
  • Incorrect shift rpm: Shift rpm __________, Torque peak __________
  • Operate at a cruise speed: rpm __________
  • Compensating for low power: Yes ________ No _______

IF, AFTER FILLING OUT THIS FORM, IT APPEARS THAT THE ISSUE IS NOT CAUSED BY VEHICLE FACTORS, ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS, OR DRIVER TECHNIQUE, FILL OUT THE DRIVEABILITY/LOW-POWER/EXCESSIVE FUEL CONSUMPTION CHECKLIST, AND GO TO THE FUEL CONSUMPTION EXCESSIVE TROUBLESHOOTING SYMPTOM TREE.

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Oil Consumption

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In addition to the information that follows, a service publication is available titled Technical Overview of Oil Consumption, Bulletin 3379214.

Cummins Inc. defines ”acceptable oil usage” as outlined in the following table.

ACCEPTABLE OIL USAGE
ANY TIME DURING COVERAGE PERIOD
ENGINE FAMILY
HRS PER QT
HRS PER LITER
HOURS PER IMPERIAL QUART
MILES PER QUART
MILES PER LITER
MILES PER IMPERIAL QUART
KM PER QUART
KM PER LITER
KM PER IMPERIAL QUART
A
10.0
10.6
12.0
400
425
475
650
675
775
4B
10.0
10.6
12.0
400
425
475
650
675
775
6B
10.0
10.6
12.0
400
425
475
650
675
775
6C
10.0
10.6
12.0
400
425
475
650
675
775
V/VT-378
4.0
4.3
5.0
V/VT-504
4.0
4.3
5.0
250
265
310
400
425
485
V/VT-555
4.0
4.3
5.0
250
265
310
400
425
485
L Series
4.0
4.3
5.0
250
265
310
400
425
485
M Series
4.0
4.3
5.0
250
265
310
400
425
485
N Series
4.0
4.3
5.0
250
265
310
400
425
485
V/VT/VTA-903
4.0
4.3
5.0
250
265
310
400
425
485
KT/KTA-19
3.0
3.2
3.75
200
210
250
320
340
390
V/VT/VTA28
2.0
2.1
2.5
KT/KTA38
1.5
1.6
1.8
KTA50
1.1
1.2
1.3

ACCEPTABLE OIL USAGE (Transit Bus, Shuttle Bus, and School Bus)
ANY TIME DURING COVERAGE PERIOD
ENGINE FAMILY
HRS PER QT
HRS PER LITER
HOURS PER IMPERIAL QUART
MILES PER QUART
MILES PER LITER
MILES PER IMPERIAL QUART
KM PER QUART
KM PER LITER
KM PER IMPERIAL QUART
B
10.0
10.6
12.0
200
210
240
320
340
385
C
8.0
8.5
10.0
150
160
180
240
255
290
L, M, N
4.0
4.3
5.0
100
105
120
160
170
195

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Engine Lubricating Oil Consumption Report
Owner’s Name
Date of Delivery
Engine Serial Number
Month
Day
Year
Address
Equipment Manufacturer
Engine Model and hp
City
State/Province
Equipment Serial Number
Fuel Pump Serial Number
Engine Application (describe)
Oil and Filter Change Interval
Complaint Originally Registered
Oil
Filters
Date
Mile/Hours/Kilometers
Lubricating Oil Added
Date Added Oil
Engine Operation Miles/Hours/Kilometers
Quarts – Liters Oil Added
Brand and Viscosity of Oil Used
Start Test
     
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
Last Mileage/Hours/Kilometers _________________________ Minus Start Mileage/Hours/Kilometers ___________________________________
Equals Test Mileage/Hours/Kilometers ____________________________ Divided by Oil Added __________________________________________
Equals ___________________________________________ Usage Rate________________________________________________________________
Customer Signature
Cummins Dealer
Cummins Distributor
Cummins Inc. Form 4755

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OIL CONSUMPTION REPORT
Customer Name:
D/r:
Engine Model:
Mi/Km/Hr:
Engine Serial Number:
CPL Number:
Vehicle Make/Model:
Date:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Signed: __________________________________________________

Coolant Loss Pre-Troubleshooting Guide

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Before troubleshooting, it is critical to know where the coolant is being lost. It is not always obvious where the missing coolant has gone.

Before troubleshooting, it is important to determine the exact complaint by interviewing the driver, looking at the service history and looking at the ECM information.

Driver Interview Questions

Drivers Name:

Engine Serial Number (ESN):

What is your complaint?

How is this engine used?

What sort of load factors?

Where is the vehicle driven?

  1. How often do you add coolant?
  2. How do you fill the radiator?
  3. Do you fill to the High or Low mark when the engine is cold (less than 60°C [140°F]?
  4. What type of coolant is added?
  5. Any coolant on the ground under the truck?
  6. Any green or white streaks on the engine or near the coolant overflow hose?
  7. Is there any specific condition when indications of coolant loss (weather, altitude, or load)?
  8. Does the engine ever overheat?
  9. Does the warning light flash?
  10. Under what condition?
  11. What temperature does the coolant run at normally?
  12. Does the cooling fan operate correctly?
  13. Seen any white smoke at operating temperature, or has anyone told you that white smoke is coming out of the exhaust?
  14. Has any oil analysis been performed as part of the maintenance?
  15. Are there elevated levels of sodium or potassium?
  16. Noticed any increase in moisture condensation on the dipstick or oil fill cap, or moisture in the blowby?
  17. Noticed a milky appearance in the lube that might indicate coolant is present?
  18. What other comments exists that might help Cummins® make the right repair?

Service History Review

Repeat cylinder head or cylinder gasket repairs can indicate the problem is likely not the cylinder head or cylinder head gasket. Repeat problems can indicate a deeper problem in the engine. Keep this information in mind while going through the troubleshooting procedure.

Look at the engine’s warranty claims history:

  • Who worked on the engine last and what did technician do?
  • How many kilometers [miles] are on the engine?
  • Has a cylinder head or cylinder head gasket been replaced before?
  • At how many miles were the repairs made?

At this point, where is the coolant is going?

If not and the coolant loss is not severe, suggest mounting a catch bottle on the radiator overflow tube to catch any overflow that can possibly be blowing out and becoming lost while at speed. Send the vehicle out to collect more data about where the coolant is not going. If the catch bottle has some coolant in it, refer back to the Coolant Loss External (out the overflow) interview questions.

Last Modified:  23-Aug-2010